Wishing you and yours a wonderful holiday. |
Tuesday, December 25, 2018
Monday, December 24, 2018
In Search Of
There's a few developments on Penn's situation. It amounts to I've found him a new home and he'll go there in June 2019. I've spent two days sobbing over it but it's the perfect place for him. The timing is a long way off, but I highly doubt it will fall through.
I've started a casual search for another horse. GP Trainer is checking her contacts, but I figured I'd post here too. The blogosphere helped bring Penn to me. Maybe you can help find the next one too.
I'm looking to either purchase a young green horse or free lease a schoolmaster that does at least 4th level. There is no hurry right now to find another horse. The horse:
I'm open to traveling quite a distance for something that has a high chance of being the perfect fit.
You all know that any horse that comes home with me will be extremely well looked after and loved on. Email me at codexdressage at gmail.com if you have anything!
A face worth crying over. |
I've started a casual search for another horse. GP Trainer is checking her contacts, but I figured I'd post here too. The blogosphere helped bring Penn to me. Maybe you can help find the next one too.
I'm looking to either purchase a young green horse or free lease a schoolmaster that does at least 4th level. There is no hurry right now to find another horse. The horse:
- Must be able to live outside 24/7 until Penn goes to his new home (fields have run ins)
- Must be a gelding
- Must be able to do group turnout
- 15.3-16.2hh (17h absolute max)
- Green horse: 2 to 7 years old, does not need to be broke to ride if on the young side. I do not have a lot to spend (mid 4 figures). I don't prefer an OTTB, I'd rather have a TB cross, but the budget may not allow that
- Schoolmaster: under age 20, some maintenance is ok, but he must have competitive years left. Must be a free lease, non-negotiable
I'm open to traveling quite a distance for something that has a high chance of being the perfect fit.
You all know that any horse that comes home with me will be extremely well looked after and loved on. Email me at codexdressage at gmail.com if you have anything!
Wednesday, December 19, 2018
Since Thanksgiving
Since getting back home, Penn's life has been turned upside down.
Activity Level. He's back to tack walking and the first few rides were interesting... He was hot and spooky and was as naughty as a horse can be without actually doing anything bad. The first ride back, I brought him into the indoor and he proceeded to stare at the footing and snort at it for 15 min straight. Seriously dude? Though, he's never done well with time off.
He's being aced for turnout and tied in his stall when he wants to stall walk. True story, sorry not sorry. This will continue for months sadly until we figure out a long term situation for him and for when his ligament damage is more healed/not freshly healed.
Interestingly, his stall walking may have played a roll in the collateral ligament tears. Did it do the actual tearing? I don't think so. Did it not help the situation? I think so. Penn has been an avid stall walker for the 3 years I've owned him. I've tried a bunch of things to make him stop (Quiessence, Total Calm and Focus powder, CBD were the big ones), and they did help to some degree but didn't make it stop. For the record, the CBD made the biggest impact on that aspect of Penn's life. It brought the stall walking down from an intermittent night time affair with mad walking at feed time to "I only walk at breakfast and dinner while I'm waiting excitedly for my food to arrive."
Penn always, ALWAYS stall walks to the left. That puts both collateral ligament tears on the inside and he pivots hard on them. I meant to mention the stall walking in my previous 2 posts, but I simply forgot because we didn't really think of it until the drive home.
New Shoes and Accessories. He got his new duds, that my farrier so graciously made for him ON THANKSGIVING, so they'd be ready to put back on ASAP. He got them back on the Saturday after Thanksgiving.
I ordered him new bell boots on Black Friday, since my favorite Italian Pull Ons can't be removed once his larger than life shoes are on his feet. I tried. The vets tried. We gave up and took them off after his shoes were pulled for his MRI.
More X Ray Review (last bit, I promise). I got a little focused on the P1 imbalances in Penn's front legs for a hot second, because why not? I have all these images, may as well obsess over them and do some learning. I should have had this ready for the last post, but honestly I just didn't think about it. The program that handles the x-rays and the online viewer has a measuring tool. I decided to measure how different each side of Penn's P1s are.
Uh, that's a big difference. I think I'm lucky to have gotten to 3rd Level with him. Apparently some difference is normal, but I don't have a value for the max of normal.
Other Medications/Supplements. As the group think tank started cranking after we got home, we figured one thing: the healing of the collateral ligaments is so low because the hoof has poor circulation. What can we do to increase the circulation in his feet? Vasodilators and blood doping techniques. Blood doping, the way it was explained to me: athletes draw an amount of blood out of their body, oxygenate it, and at least a month later after the body has replenished the blood drawn, they have the drawn blood put back in. That way they have more red cells available to carry oxygen for sporting events. That's not really an option for Penn, so we focused on the second one: vasodilators. A common drug for navicular horses is isoxsuprine hcl. I asked home vet and VEI vets if it could help him, and got the same answer from both: It probably won't help him, but it certainly won't hurt him. I did get him some, with the logic of: it's relatively cheap, it should increase blood flow to the hoof which may help, and he's got a shit ton of navicular issues so why not?
The other thing I did was up his CBD to 150 mg per day, 75 in the morning and 75 in the evening. It's right in the middle of the chronic pain dosage. Overkill? I donno. It was easy enough and I found someone who would split the 10lb size, which we bought on a huge discount on Black Friday. It's enough to see him through until April for a "reasonable" price and then we can reevaluate his situation. Again, it should promote healing. If it doesn't, oh well. I can truly say, I tried everything.
I also put him on OrthoPur Si from HorseTech (he's been on it for a month and a half now). HorseTech makes products like SportWerks, Hylasport, Hylasport CTS, Reitsport, etc. A farm friend and I got talking about supplements and she had really good luck with that company. She called them and together with vet information, they made up a support plan for her horse (who had a freak accident involving a porcupine of all things and shredded his suspensory). I did talk to rep from the company and gave them a detailed run down on Penn's issues, and they custom made a supplement for him and recommended OrthoPur Si as additional support since it's more bio-available than dry silica. I'm not ready to make judgement on the custom mix (which I'll probably be changing in light of his last vet visits) or the OrthoPur, so we'll see how that goes!
I found a horse I can borrow for a couple months at least while Penn's situation develops. There's more plans in the works for another horse for me, but I have to stop hemorrhaging money on Penn first. I have some other fun horsey plans scheduled for the end of January, so I'm working hard to get back into real riding shape instead of just tack walking shape!
He's still a pretty happy, cuddly guy. |
Activity Level. He's back to tack walking and the first few rides were interesting... He was hot and spooky and was as naughty as a horse can be without actually doing anything bad. The first ride back, I brought him into the indoor and he proceeded to stare at the footing and snort at it for 15 min straight. Seriously dude? Though, he's never done well with time off.
He's being aced for turnout and tied in his stall when he wants to stall walk. True story, sorry not sorry. This will continue for months sadly until we figure out a long term situation for him and for when his ligament damage is more healed/not freshly healed.
Snoozing in an ace-and-sun-aided trance on an unusually warm December day. |
Interestingly, his stall walking may have played a roll in the collateral ligament tears. Did it do the actual tearing? I don't think so. Did it not help the situation? I think so. Penn has been an avid stall walker for the 3 years I've owned him. I've tried a bunch of things to make him stop (Quiessence, Total Calm and Focus powder, CBD were the big ones), and they did help to some degree but didn't make it stop. For the record, the CBD made the biggest impact on that aspect of Penn's life. It brought the stall walking down from an intermittent night time affair with mad walking at feed time to "I only walk at breakfast and dinner while I'm waiting excitedly for my food to arrive."
Penn always, ALWAYS stall walks to the left. That puts both collateral ligament tears on the inside and he pivots hard on them. I meant to mention the stall walking in my previous 2 posts, but I simply forgot because we didn't really think of it until the drive home.
HALP ME |
Silent protest |
New Shoes and Accessories. He got his new duds, that my farrier so graciously made for him ON THANKSGIVING, so they'd be ready to put back on ASAP. He got them back on the Saturday after Thanksgiving.
You'd think by now I could take a picture that wasn't blurry. |
They make very unique footprints. |
I ordered him new bell boots on Black Friday, since my favorite Italian Pull Ons can't be removed once his larger than life shoes are on his feet. I tried. The vets tried. We gave up and took them off after his shoes were pulled for his MRI.
More X Ray Review (last bit, I promise). I got a little focused on the P1 imbalances in Penn's front legs for a hot second, because why not? I have all these images, may as well obsess over them and do some learning. I should have had this ready for the last post, but honestly I just didn't think about it. The program that handles the x-rays and the online viewer has a measuring tool. I decided to measure how different each side of Penn's P1s are.
Right Medial: 3.96", Right Lateral: 3.74", 0.22" difference Left Medial: 3.76", Left Lateral: 3.43", 0.33" difference |
Other Medications/Supplements. As the group think tank started cranking after we got home, we figured one thing: the healing of the collateral ligaments is so low because the hoof has poor circulation. What can we do to increase the circulation in his feet? Vasodilators and blood doping techniques. Blood doping, the way it was explained to me: athletes draw an amount of blood out of their body, oxygenate it, and at least a month later after the body has replenished the blood drawn, they have the drawn blood put back in. That way they have more red cells available to carry oxygen for sporting events. That's not really an option for Penn, so we focused on the second one: vasodilators. A common drug for navicular horses is isoxsuprine hcl. I asked home vet and VEI vets if it could help him, and got the same answer from both: It probably won't help him, but it certainly won't hurt him. I did get him some, with the logic of: it's relatively cheap, it should increase blood flow to the hoof which may help, and he's got a shit ton of navicular issues so why not?
All the meds. |
The other thing I did was up his CBD to 150 mg per day, 75 in the morning and 75 in the evening. It's right in the middle of the chronic pain dosage. Overkill? I donno. It was easy enough and I found someone who would split the 10lb size, which we bought on a huge discount on Black Friday. It's enough to see him through until April for a "reasonable" price and then we can reevaluate his situation. Again, it should promote healing. If it doesn't, oh well. I can truly say, I tried everything.
I also put him on OrthoPur Si from HorseTech (he's been on it for a month and a half now). HorseTech makes products like SportWerks, Hylasport, Hylasport CTS, Reitsport, etc. A farm friend and I got talking about supplements and she had really good luck with that company. She called them and together with vet information, they made up a support plan for her horse (who had a freak accident involving a porcupine of all things and shredded his suspensory). I did talk to rep from the company and gave them a detailed run down on Penn's issues, and they custom made a supplement for him and recommended OrthoPur Si as additional support since it's more bio-available than dry silica. I'm not ready to make judgement on the custom mix (which I'll probably be changing in light of his last vet visits) or the OrthoPur, so we'll see how that goes!
I found a horse I can borrow for a couple months at least while Penn's situation develops. There's more plans in the works for another horse for me, but I have to stop hemorrhaging money on Penn first. I have some other fun horsey plans scheduled for the end of January, so I'm working hard to get back into real riding shape instead of just tack walking shape!
Thursday, December 13, 2018
11/21/2018 - Diagnosing Penn, Part 5 (Treatment)
This took an extra day to get out because of the massive ups and downs my own emotions are taking on an almost daily basis since Thanksgiving. I had settled into a generic dead feeling about all things horses, but all the emotions were stirred up getting the last post together.
So where we left off, the collateral ligaments were #1 on the vet's list, with the coffin effusion and navicular issues neck and neck for #2.
Without treatment on the collateral ligaments, Dr Allen gave him at best, a 30% chance of being sound again. He suggested PRP injections into each CL, with shockwave following each injection. He gave a 40-60% chance of soundness if we did that. He also recommended some shoeing changes to help support the ligaments while they heal.
He said we can also do PRP injections into both coffin joints for the effusion. He said that the injections he got back in August seem to have done their job, but he thought the effusion was coming back and we could readdress it.
The last thing he wanted to address were the navicular issues- he suggested another round of Osphos. He said it lasts between 3 and 6 months, so people generally do Tildren because it lasts about double the time. They end up costing about the same though in the long run.
Doing my due diligence, I asked how much all of these options cost. I already knew the cost of shockwave and Osphos, but not the PRP. Umm... let's call it "cost prohibitive" to do 4 PRP injections, plus 2 shockwave treatments. The cost for 2 PRPs was probably among the more expensive things we've done for Penn, aside from the 5 shockwave treatments that his insurance already covered.
Keeping in mind the reasonable vs unreasonable vs cost, we opted to go short term. Coffin injections and Tildren mean nothing if the collateral ligaments don't heal. We felt, while expensive, the PRP injections for the collateral ligaments were Penn's only real shot at soundness. We also opted for Osphos since while expensive, it's almost reasonable compared to everything else. Lastly, we decided to take new hoof balance x-rays. I didn't realize the ones from August would be considered old by now!
Part of the decision for no PRP injections for the coffin joints is I wasn't sold that Penn's coffins are actually hurting him, which sounds awful. Sure, his coffin joint in both fronts has some funny bone growth, but I'm betting it's always been there and isn't brand new. He was sound at one point in time. He felt a lot better after the steroid coffin injections in August, but about 2 weeks later he started to revert back, so I don't think they did much, and even Dr Cricket said they didn't appear to have worked for him.
We made all these decisions late Tuesday. Penn slept over at VEI so he'd be available when they were ready for him.
Will his legs ever be perfect? No. Are they better? I'd like to think so. He's still flat footed, but he's less crooked. It looks like he somehow has even less sole in those 3 months... though I will say he had an uneven amount of sole and we did fix that. His toe can still be brought back a bit. After Dr Allen looked at the new x-rays, he did hem and haw over pads- he immediately said, "I can see why Cricket put him in pads." and then had a good think over what he wanted to do, but eventually decided on no pad. The ligament support is more important than the sole coverage right now, and the pad interferes with the ligament support since it goes across the foot.
What I'm curious about, and I didn't talk to Dr Allen about it, but the vet who did Penn's PPE noticed he was crooked and said they could have addressed it as a baby (but then of course she's like, no matter, it's fine!). I'm wondering if he received different nutrition or care (ahem, better... I have many reasons to believe his VET breeder was much closer to a backyard breeder than thoughtful vet breeder), if his legs could have been straighter. Would leg braces have encouraged the bone to grow more on the deficient side?
Dr Allen also said something curious, he thought Penn had a sheared heel on the right front. He pointed out how the inside heel was taller than the outside. Not really knowing what that meant, I said OK and logged it down. He asked for the medial side of the right foot to be trimmed down over time. I had to look it up after I got home, then I immediately went out and looked at Penn's feet.
I came in while they were finishing up his x rays and putting his neck catheter in to pull blood for his PRP. They shaved his coronary bands at that time too. I did get a chuckle out of that- they always say how good he is and I told them he might be funny about the clippers, and they were like, "Really?" They flicked them on and he immediately became agitated and spooky. I asked that they touch his shoulder with them running and then he'll stand for it. They looked at me like I had 12 heads, but did it, and sure enough he stood like a gentleman and let them shave him... though, he did watch them very suspiciously!
I got to be there for the PRP injections, and it was absolutely fascinating. I had a real job to do while they were doing that, so I couldn't take pictures of anything, but basically a team of 5 people is what it takes to get this done (vet doing injections with sterile hands, vet working the ultrasound with sterile hands, tech taking x-rays, tech handing everyone else things, and someone to hold the horse).
The method Dr Allen developed to inject PRP into the coffin collateral ligaments is ultrasound guided, x-ray confirmed, and pulling the needle out slowly as he injects. I'll bullet out how everything worked:
I've been a bit of an emotional train wreck since this vet visit. First was the, "We have a plan and we'll see how it goes", then the "OMG HE'S NEVER GOING TO BE OK AGAIN", then there was a strange "He's going to be just fine!" period, followed by a more mellow "he's not going to be ok" period. There's a bunch of stuff up in the air, and it won't settle back down until his recheck, which is kind of what I think it killing me a bit. I'm having trouble making it out to the barn to do his walks. I get out there 3-4 days a week now instead of 4-5 that I used to. I'm burned out on horses in general on top of being sad for Penn.
Dr Allen was hopeful I'd be able to start trotting him after his spring recheck, so I think that's keeping me running a bit. Do the rehab properly. Penn deserves it.
Collateral Ligament Badness |
So where we left off, the collateral ligaments were #1 on the vet's list, with the coffin effusion and navicular issues neck and neck for #2.
Without treatment on the collateral ligaments, Dr Allen gave him at best, a 30% chance of being sound again. He suggested PRP injections into each CL, with shockwave following each injection. He gave a 40-60% chance of soundness if we did that. He also recommended some shoeing changes to help support the ligaments while they heal.
He said we can also do PRP injections into both coffin joints for the effusion. He said that the injections he got back in August seem to have done their job, but he thought the effusion was coming back and we could readdress it.
The last thing he wanted to address were the navicular issues- he suggested another round of Osphos. He said it lasts between 3 and 6 months, so people generally do Tildren because it lasts about double the time. They end up costing about the same though in the long run.
Doing my due diligence, I asked how much all of these options cost. I already knew the cost of shockwave and Osphos, but not the PRP. Umm... let's call it "cost prohibitive" to do 4 PRP injections, plus 2 shockwave treatments. The cost for 2 PRPs was probably among the more expensive things we've done for Penn, aside from the 5 shockwave treatments that his insurance already covered.
Keeping in mind the reasonable vs unreasonable vs cost, we opted to go short term. Coffin injections and Tildren mean nothing if the collateral ligaments don't heal. We felt, while expensive, the PRP injections for the collateral ligaments were Penn's only real shot at soundness. We also opted for Osphos since while expensive, it's almost reasonable compared to everything else. Lastly, we decided to take new hoof balance x-rays. I didn't realize the ones from August would be considered old by now!
Part of the decision for no PRP injections for the coffin joints is I wasn't sold that Penn's coffins are actually hurting him, which sounds awful. Sure, his coffin joint in both fronts has some funny bone growth, but I'm betting it's always been there and isn't brand new. He was sound at one point in time. He felt a lot better after the steroid coffin injections in August, but about 2 weeks later he started to revert back, so I don't think they did much, and even Dr Cricket said they didn't appear to have worked for him.
We made all these decisions late Tuesday. Penn slept over at VEI so he'd be available when they were ready for him.
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Before I got to the vet office Wednesday morning, they had taken him to the back for his hoof balance x-rays.8/16/2018 |
11/21/2018 |
8/16/2018 |
Will his legs ever be perfect? No. Are they better? I'd like to think so. He's still flat footed, but he's less crooked. It looks like he somehow has even less sole in those 3 months... though I will say he had an uneven amount of sole and we did fix that. His toe can still be brought back a bit. After Dr Allen looked at the new x-rays, he did hem and haw over pads- he immediately said, "I can see why Cricket put him in pads." and then had a good think over what he wanted to do, but eventually decided on no pad. The ligament support is more important than the sole coverage right now, and the pad interferes with the ligament support since it goes across the foot.
What I'm curious about, and I didn't talk to Dr Allen about it, but the vet who did Penn's PPE noticed he was crooked and said they could have addressed it as a baby (but then of course she's like, no matter, it's fine!). I'm wondering if he received different nutrition or care (ahem, better... I have many reasons to believe his VET breeder was much closer to a backyard breeder than thoughtful vet breeder), if his legs could have been straighter. Would leg braces have encouraged the bone to grow more on the deficient side?
Dr Allen also said something curious, he thought Penn had a sheared heel on the right front. He pointed out how the inside heel was taller than the outside. Not really knowing what that meant, I said OK and logged it down. He asked for the medial side of the right foot to be trimmed down over time. I had to look it up after I got home, then I immediately went out and looked at Penn's feet.
Top hoof is the right, bottom is the left. Apparently the right foot is sheared. I mean, I see it, but it's very very slight. The right hand side of the picture is the inside of the foot. |
I came in while they were finishing up his x rays and putting his neck catheter in to pull blood for his PRP. They shaved his coronary bands at that time too. I did get a chuckle out of that- they always say how good he is and I told them he might be funny about the clippers, and they were like, "Really?" They flicked them on and he immediately became agitated and spooky. I asked that they touch his shoulder with them running and then he'll stand for it. They looked at me like I had 12 heads, but did it, and sure enough he stood like a gentleman and let them shave him... though, he did watch them very suspiciously!
Penn got some time to just be a horse after that. I took him out to hand graze while the team was prepping for his injections and the PRPs were spinning in the centrifuge. |
I got to be there for the PRP injections, and it was absolutely fascinating. I had a real job to do while they were doing that, so I couldn't take pictures of anything, but basically a team of 5 people is what it takes to get this done (vet doing injections with sterile hands, vet working the ultrasound with sterile hands, tech taking x-rays, tech handing everyone else things, and someone to hold the horse).
The method Dr Allen developed to inject PRP into the coffin collateral ligaments is ultrasound guided, x-ray confirmed, and pulling the needle out slowly as he injects. I'll bullet out how everything worked:
- One of the vets did nerve blocks to the entire foot in both front feet to help prevent any pain from bothering Penn while they were injecting.
- Scrub the lateral side of the left front and the medial side of the right front coronary band area thoroughly since the injections will be quite deep.
- Sedate Penn.
- Set Penn's front hooves up on two wooden blocks, since they needed to take x-rays during the procedure.
- They started with the right front. Dr Allen placed the needle while being guided by ultrasound by the other vet, with the extra tech turning knobs and pressing buttons on the ultrasound machine.
- The x-ray tech would place the x-ray plate and aim the hand held unit and take front and side images to make sure the end of the needle was placed in the wing of the coffin bone.
- Dr Allen confirmed placement, then proceeded to 'push the plunger' and slowly draw out the needle, thereby injecting PRP solution up the length of the ligament.
- Repeat for the left front. The right front was placed correctly the first time, but the left front was much more difficult to place. He got it though.
- Pressure is placed over the injection site, especially over the left front because it well hell bent on spewing lots of blood. Ok well maybe it wasn't lots, but blood runs really easily in short alcohol soaked hair, haha!
- Shockwave was done immediately following each injection, and then both of Penn's fronts were wrapped up.
And because I may as well share all the cool shit from this shitshow of a week, I have the placement x-rays too!
Penn was a champ for his injections, everyone said what a good boy he was. In my head I was like, "How could he not be? You nerve blocked him and sedated him. He should be an angel." Apparently that isn't always enough. He didn't even need to be twitched. That's cool, I'm happy if everyone loves Penn, that means I've done my job in teaching him to behave, even if it majorly sucks. After he woke up a bit (and even at his Friday visit), all of the staff were stuffing him full of treats because they just liked working with him.
Dr Allen was happy with how the injections went. As he was doing the actual injection, I was sitting there thinking, "OMG why isn't it going in? Do they have a bad syringe that's sticking and broken?" He was shaking with effort to get the fluid out of the syringe. Apparently this is a very good sign. It means the tissues are still healthy. He said the horses who he can just squeeze the fluid into easily are generally shredded inside.
So Penn's final notes included:
- Changes to his shoeing with extra wide medial branch of the RF and lateral branch of the LF shoes. Slowly take away from the medial side of the RF to help fix the sheared heel.
- Two more rounds of shockwave to each collateral ligament, for a total of three rounds. He got the first round on 11/21, he got the second on 12/12, and he'll get the third on 1/2.
- Hand walk for a week after he gets home (this is already completed).
- A follow up appointment should be scheduled for 90 days after his 3rd round of shockwave.
- Limited turnout in generally pristine conditions, tranquilize as needed. Keep him as quiet as possible.
- Tack walk 3-5 days a week for 20-30 minutes until his recheck in spring.
They sent me home with a bottle of ace because the "minimal" bouncing he's been doing in turnout is unacceptable- he must only walk and stand. No trotting, bucking, playing, etc. I don't want to use reserpine because of the diarrhea risk, and because those COTH threads were scary. I did talk to a friend who used it on her horse, not knowing about the more rare side effects... and while he was generally fine, he hasn't been the same mentally since).
I've been a bit of an emotional train wreck since this vet visit. First was the, "We have a plan and we'll see how it goes", then the "OMG HE'S NEVER GOING TO BE OK AGAIN", then there was a strange "He's going to be just fine!" period, followed by a more mellow "he's not going to be ok" period. There's a bunch of stuff up in the air, and it won't settle back down until his recheck, which is kind of what I think it killing me a bit. I'm having trouble making it out to the barn to do his walks. I get out there 3-4 days a week now instead of 4-5 that I used to. I'm burned out on horses in general on top of being sad for Penn.
Dr Allen was hopeful I'd be able to start trotting him after his spring recheck, so I think that's keeping me running a bit. Do the rehab properly. Penn deserves it.
Tuesday, December 11, 2018
11/20/2018 - Diagnosing Penn, Part 4 (Diagnosis)
**First, I want to thank everyone for their kind words and support. It really means a lot. I wish I had better news for how it all turns out, but I don't. Everything is detailed in this post. Part of why this series of posts was so drawn out is because I needed time to go through the almost 700 images from the MRI.**
Despite the bad circumstances, I am completely fascinated with the imaging from the MRI. |
MRI day had finally arrived! Everything was going well until Penn absolutely refused to get on the trailer at o'dark hundred. My truck and trailer talk nicely to each other, but the borrowed truck was not speaking to my interior trailer lights. I parked the back of the trailer in a flood light hoping that would provide enough light, but Penn still tripped on the ramp, almost fell down, and then absolutely refused to get in. Mom ended up using her cell phone flashlight to light up the inside of the trailer, and then Penn happily walked on. Unfortunately, that blew the 15 min buffer window I had allowed for slow driving and we ended up leaving at 6 instead of 5:45.
Everything was smooth sailing for our drive to Morven Park, and we even arrived 10 min early! It took me all of those minutes to find someone who could direct us where to go. One of the vets from VEI met us there and helped me get Penn inside and unblanketed. She pulled his shoes (which was an oddly traumatizing event for me, the same sick sad feeling as when we pulled Mikey’s hind shoes when he was recovering in 2015), and then she put his neck catheter in.
I love that VEI’s vets are happy to talk to me and include me in what they’re doing. Doing something as simple as holding the horse so he doesn’t roll in fresh shavings with a neck catheter in was really nice and made me feel useful instead of banished. I was able to tag along for the whole pre-MRI work (but not the MRI itself, which is apparently super boring after the first 5 min, and it takes about 2.5 hours if the horse is good).
A system similar to what scanned Penn. Check out the website (Hallmarq) that I found this image on for more info! |
The standing MRI that Penn had done isn’t like a human MRI. He didn’t need to be knocked out, just heavily sedated so he didn’t move at all. It’s also not nearly as powerful- metal won’t go flying across the room. The only metal you need to remove is anything that will end up in the MRI’s field of view. We had to pull his shoes, and then the vet used x-rays to ensure we got all of the metal from the nails. Slivers won’t get pulled through the hoof, but they will create black spots that the machine can’t see through. It took about a half hour to get the slivers out of his hoof wall- only because the x-ray software wasn’t playing nice and the vet had to keep rebooting the computer between test images. Penn stood like a champ on the Plexiglas foot rest and didn’t move at all. He was just happy to get face rubs and attention.
After getting the metal out of his hooves, we took him back to the room where the equipment is located and they gave him some sedatives and said goodbye to me. They led him to the room with the MRI in it, and I went out to meet my mom and go find some breakfast!
We ended up touring Morven Park's grounds on our way to breakfast. I had only seen the barns and dressage rings, and I couldn't place where they built their new rings. We drove past the mansion, cross country course, soccer fields, before eventually ending up at the part I'm familiar with.
Uh, drool. I hope one day I get to go ride there! There's another area behind that mound that seems to be the same size. |
We left Penn around 8:30 or 9 am I think, and the vet called me around 12:45 pm to say he was back in his stall and things had gone well. Penn had been very good for the left foot and left pastern, but had to pee during the right pastern. There was some clean up and they had to redo the right pastern before moving back down to the right foot. Basically, he had been a model patient and could go back to the vet office as soon as he was awake enough to travel.
So drugged, plus a muzzle. Diapers on both fronts since he doesn't have shoes. |
It's a good thing we didn't plan on leaving the day of the MRI, Penn wasn't ready to go until almost 1:30 pm, and I was already tired by that point. We took Penn back to the vet office and settled in to wait for practice owner, Dr A Kent Allen, to be done with his clients and to read Penn's MRI.
One of his afternoon clients was GP Trainer with 3 of the horses from her barn, so I got to talk to her for a little bit. She was the voice of reason that I did not want to hear, but I needed to hear. She said that maybe my time with him is up- he is a wonderful creature but served his purpose for me (my bronze) and it's time to find him another job. She told me to do what's best for him, but do not go overboard and do everything both reasonable and unreasonable. Basically, weigh the treatment against how well it works and how much it costs. Come up with a limit of what we'll spend to fix him, and stick to it. She said every now and then she gets emails from clients about older schoolmaster type horses that their owners want to free lease to keep them exercised or to get them off their checkbooks. She could help me get set up with one of those to continue my education. She did apologize for "being an emotionless bitch about it" (her words, haha), but she's absolutely right and that is the voice I need to have on my side. I didn't have it when I bought him. I don't regret buying him, but I believe some of his issues were glossed over or ignored because Mikey had just died and the thinking was "Oh, Jan found a horse she likes, just approve him!"
Anyway...
It took quite a while to get the results back, but that's fine. Dr Allen was very thorough and there's no rushing it. It was well after their closing hours by the time he came to talk about it, but he spent the time with me to make sure I understood what was wrong and pointed everything out on the MRI images, which I've shared below. (I may have gotten the images wrong, or pointed to the wrong place, sorry! I had to find them myself after the fact and it took me a very long time. I am 95% sure of everything though.)
Penn has moderate tears in two collateral ligaments- one in each front hoof, both next to the coffin bone. The medial on the RF and the lateral on the LF, so the left side of each front foot.
PC: http://www.backpunch.com/the-navicular-apparatus/ The arrows are a bit difficult to see, but it's the forward-most green ligament. |
In addition to the torn collateral ligaments, his navicular area is a bit messy in both fronts, enough that it bothered the vet quite a bit. He was also concerned about the coffin joint in both fronts. It's just easier to do a screenshot of the MRI findings and diagnosis that Dr Allen gave me:
From my very non-vet perspective, it sounds like Penn should be a cripple for life. I wonder how many 'sound' horses have some of these issues? |
For help reading the following MRI images, look in these places:
http://www.hallmarq.net/equine/veterinarians
http://casemed.case.edu/clerkships/neurology/web%20neurorad/mri%20basics.htm
https://www.chirogeek.com/MRI%20READING/mriReading.html#Axial_Images
I found it helpful to know how each type of sequencing displays the different tissues, and some other basics. Austen found the bottom two articles, the second of which was quick to point out that the label L in the MRI images does not mean lateral, it means left. The images are flipped- what's on the right is actually on the left side of the scanned area. I'm not sure what the F, FP, FA, P, PF and all the other orientation letters mean, but knowing what foot and which side is left makes all the difference. Basically, throw out your medial and lateral references that we've been using! We're looking at the left side of each foot, not lateral (outside) of the foot.
I was able to find most of the issues in the vet notes, so let's go through everything one by one. There were 684 images in 40 different MRI series. Every image is a cross section of the hoof using different highlighting techniques. Series names start with T1, T2, and STIR, which are some scientific way of describing the way the machine scans (for a better description, see those links above!). Each of these highlight the structures in different ways to better see what's going on in there
Of course the first image series called "T2 W FSE SAG" (coffin joint effusion, scar tissue in navicular bursa, navicular bursa effusion) that the vet saw something is the one series I couldn't pinpoint exactly.
The next is the big one. The tears to the collateral ligaments in series "T2 W FSE TRA". There were 3 series done like this, each from different angles: P, PF, and FP. I'm 99% sure that P is "flat", aka completely horizontal. The other two have some upward angle to them, which is why the top pair of images below look funny. The bottom of the image is the frog, cut on a forward angle.
To help everyone figure out what they're looking at, here are two image series in GIF format. I put those anatomy pictures up above because you can see the coffin and short pastern bones from a variety of angles, as well as the "pedal" look of the coffin in the P series.
T2W FSE TRA series, PF As you get closer to the toe, you can see the holes in the coffin bone. I assume those are for blood supply. |
Next is the navicular bone edema, in series "STIR FSE SAG". This is a series where water shows up as bright white.
The red circle shows the excess fluid around the navicular bone. |
These two series also have a completely fascinating shot of the blood vessels in the bursa on the edges of this cross section of the foot:
The last series that had notable issues was the T1 W 3D ISO series of the left hoof. It showed marginal fractures of the navicular bone on the lateral side (the outside, which is the left side in this case).
Because MRIs are fascinating, I took the time to assemble these images and put them into short videos. The following two videos are 112 cross sections of each front hoof, the T1W 3D ISO series, shot from the FA direction.
I do wonder how many "sound" horses are running around with the same hoof issues as Penn (not including the torn collateral ligaments), and whether they actively bother the horse. I know navicular bone damage is kind of common, but what about the laminar thickening? I know we'll never have a good idea, MRIs are not cheap and you don't do them just for funsies.
As fun as it is to look through the images and delve into finding the problem areas, it all comes down to what does it all mean?
Well, it most likely means Penn's competitive career is over, as well as any secondary career he might have had being a schoolmaster. At best, he'll probably be able to W/T/C both directions, with no lateral movements.
The navicular area issues are secondary to the collateral ligament injuries. If left to their own devices, Dr Allen gave the collateral ligaments up to a 30% chance of healing to a point where Penn is sound again. He said this is the kind of injury where you can turn the horse out in a field for 12 months, and the horse will come back in just as lame as it was turned out. Poor blood supply to the hoof means collateral ligament tears as deep as the coffin don't heal well, if they heal at all.
There are things we can do to help, which we did elect to do, that increase his odds of soundness to 40-60%. I'm not sure whether those odds are for return to full work soundness, or return to WTC soundness. I have a feeling they're WTC soundness and the full work soundness is much lower. Lateral movements are most likely out of the question, as well as most hills or other uneven terrain. The collateral ligaments are fairly inflexible and stabilize the lateral flexion of the joints. Penn flails quite a bit as he moves, stressing the inside of the leg the most (note the RF, where the CL is torn on the inside, is the worse of the two tears). He could re-injure them just moving around because of how he moves; there's no need to add lateral movements and more lateral stress to the mix.
So how did this happen? And when? The vets agree that the collateral ligament tears are relatively new (probably in the last few months). The way the nerve blocks went at his visits throughout the summer, he didn't have these issues at the start, middle or end of summer. They most likely happened sometime in September or October. We didn't do nerve blocks at our appointment at the start of October, but his soundness at that appointment was very similar to his soundness at the November recheck.
He could have bounced the wrong way in turnout. He started being more active as he felt better. Our footing changed from dry yet very rainy summer to mucky, muddy fall. Maybe he slipped. I'm an extremely cautious driver when I have the trailer, but it could have happened in there if Penn compensated too hard or the wrong way, or I did something wrong driving and tossed him around. It isn't due to his poor conformation- he tore the left side of both fronts. Something actively happened to him to make that happen. I'm sure his conformation didn't help matters- the whole of his foot is a mess so it was probably already compromised and ripe for injury. I'll never know what happened exactly to end my horse's career, and that's quite sad.
Who knew this tiny amount of lameness, that could be reasoned away as muscle weakness or just simply being unbalanced, is actually two torn collateral ligaments in the front hooves? I certainly won't look at slight off moments the same again.
I'll go over the treatments offered and the treatments we did in my next post, as well as his rehab plan. This post has gone on for long enough I think.
Monday, December 10, 2018
11/19/2018 - Diagnosing Penn, Part 3
I am blessed with a wonderful Barn Owner who lets me do things like borrow her truck and drive it to another state and put 600-700 miles on it in one go. TWICE. The first time was after my oil pump failed in 2017. After my truck’s brakes died on our way home from VA, the first call I made was to emergency services, the second was to her to start to arrange transport for Penn to get to his MRI and to get home.
While mom and I were driving back to VA on Monday, Husband called. We had dropped the truck off at our favorite local shop without telling them it was coming, and left it with a big to-do list. The shop had finally called him back. They were concerned because we left them quite a list, and they basically said that with Thanksgiving coming up, them already being 2 weeks deep in existing work, and the amount of parts and labor and comprehensive look over that the truck needed, it could be 3 to 4 weeks before we got it back, and then we're getting into Christmas holiday time. Maybe they were concerned about the amount of time it would take to finish... but really, like we’d say no and have it towed somewhere else? Nah. But that did change things for Penn.
We had planned on going to the MRI Tuesday and taking him directly home to PA, with the understanding we’d probably be home before the MRI was fully reviewed and a treatment plan conceived. We were planning on bringing him back a week or so later… whups, not anymore. I’d have to borrow a truck for another 2 days on someone else’s M-F schedule, which I didn’t want to do because I only have 1.5 vacation days left for the year. I made a bunch of calls: VEI agreed to take Penn overnight and squeeze him into someone’s schedule for whatever treatment was decided on (easy to do because he’d be there already), and Barn Owner agreed to let me keep the truck for an additional day.
We got to GP Trainer’s by late afternoon after a nice drive that only had a few driving shenanigans from other drivers. GP Trainer's barn is technically closed on Mondays- no boarders, lessons or riding, just staff taking care of the horses and doing projects that can’t be done with clients around. GP Trainer’s assistant made an exception for me- I needed to drop off grain no matter what, but she said I was allowed to ride if I’d like. So ride I did!
I had planned on schooling in the indoor. When I got there, some of the maintenance staff were working in it and I turned around to go to the outdoor, which also has glorious safe footing and it was a beautiful day out. When I got to the outdoor, I found it had been freshly dragged. Not wanting to disturb it either, I got on and decided a walk through her fields on a pseudo trail ride was just the right thing to do. Penn hasn’t been on a trail ride since May, and she has tons of level field to stroll through.
I went for a quick 15 min walk, tucked him back in his stall, packed the trailer with all the non-essentials I needed in the morning, and high tailed it out of there. We were in and out in an hour and 15 min!
I did look over his grain situation while we were there. GP Trainer feeds breakfast, lunch, and dinner, and lunch is fed outside in the turnouts in winter. I found an overturned feed pan of alfalfa pellets out in Penn's dry lot, hahaha! They didn't go over so well then. I figure he ate about half of what they gave him, and I bagged the leftovers and put the rest of the bag in my trailer while he was eating a much more satisfying grain dinner with some of his regular supplements.
The evening was fairly boring, mom and I had dinner and turned in early because a 7:30a MRI appointment meant leaving GP Trainer’s barn by 5:45a, which meant arriving there by 5a, which meant a 4am wake up!
While mom and I were driving back to VA on Monday, Husband called. We had dropped the truck off at our favorite local shop without telling them it was coming, and left it with a big to-do list. The shop had finally called him back. They were concerned because we left them quite a list, and they basically said that with Thanksgiving coming up, them already being 2 weeks deep in existing work, and the amount of parts and labor and comprehensive look over that the truck needed, it could be 3 to 4 weeks before we got it back, and then we're getting into Christmas holiday time. Maybe they were concerned about the amount of time it would take to finish... but really, like we’d say no and have it towed somewhere else? Nah. But that did change things for Penn.
The best shot... has moisture on the lens. Facepalm |
We had planned on going to the MRI Tuesday and taking him directly home to PA, with the understanding we’d probably be home before the MRI was fully reviewed and a treatment plan conceived. We were planning on bringing him back a week or so later… whups, not anymore. I’d have to borrow a truck for another 2 days on someone else’s M-F schedule, which I didn’t want to do because I only have 1.5 vacation days left for the year. I made a bunch of calls: VEI agreed to take Penn overnight and squeeze him into someone’s schedule for whatever treatment was decided on (easy to do because he’d be there already), and Barn Owner agreed to let me keep the truck for an additional day.
We got to GP Trainer’s by late afternoon after a nice drive that only had a few driving shenanigans from other drivers. GP Trainer's barn is technically closed on Mondays- no boarders, lessons or riding, just staff taking care of the horses and doing projects that can’t be done with clients around. GP Trainer’s assistant made an exception for me- I needed to drop off grain no matter what, but she said I was allowed to ride if I’d like. So ride I did!
"Hey I'm walking in a field, neato!" |
I had planned on schooling in the indoor. When I got there, some of the maintenance staff were working in it and I turned around to go to the outdoor, which also has glorious safe footing and it was a beautiful day out. When I got to the outdoor, I found it had been freshly dragged. Not wanting to disturb it either, I got on and decided a walk through her fields on a pseudo trail ride was just the right thing to do. Penn hasn’t been on a trail ride since May, and she has tons of level field to stroll through.
Just a pretty pic of her indoor and the sunset. |
I went for a quick 15 min walk, tucked him back in his stall, packed the trailer with all the non-essentials I needed in the morning, and high tailed it out of there. We were in and out in an hour and 15 min!
I did look over his grain situation while we were there. GP Trainer feeds breakfast, lunch, and dinner, and lunch is fed outside in the turnouts in winter. I found an overturned feed pan of alfalfa pellets out in Penn's dry lot, hahaha! They didn't go over so well then. I figure he ate about half of what they gave him, and I bagged the leftovers and put the rest of the bag in my trailer while he was eating a much more satisfying grain dinner with some of his regular supplements.
Cute face that says, "I do not like alfalfa pellets, Mom!" |
The evening was fairly boring, mom and I had dinner and turned in early because a 7:30a MRI appointment meant leaving GP Trainer’s barn by 5:45a, which meant arriving there by 5a, which meant a 4am wake up!
Wednesday, December 5, 2018
11/17/2018 - Diagnosing Penn, Part 2
We didn’t have any luck finding Penn’s feed at Tractor Supply Friday night and had resolved to go to one of the big feed stores after my lesson.
We had a lovely ride with GP Trainer’s second assistant trainer (GP Trainer was off teaching a clinic). Penn felt great! He did take some NQR steps tracking right at the trot, but settled right into sound trot steps to the left.
The assistant trainer addressed some of the issues we’d been having: I didn’t want to touch the inside rein because that’s “not correct” but I’d lost the lateral flexion at the poll and Penn just wanted to put his nose to the outside, despite all of my inside leg being on and his neck being shifted in:
Using both the inside rein and inside leg, she had me think about flexion and bend as two different things (because they are) and overdo the lateral flexion and bend in a “bend, more, most” 3 step process. At that point I’d also use a bit more inside leg in a ‘lift the belly’ type motion to encourage him to bring his back up. I'd hold the "most" for a few steps, then release the inside rein. Repeat as often as needed. Doing this will cause him to fall out the outside shoulder, but that doesn't matter too much. He wanted to fall out more tracking right, so I kept enough outside aids on to keep him on the circle. Even though we're using an awful lot of inside rein, I still can't just pull or hang on it- she had me rolling my inside hand and being super sloppy with it to encourage him to bring his nose in.
As he became more flexible with that and started losing the outside shoulder on the circle, she had me keep him straighter by blocking the outside shoulder. It was really nice, he suppled and eventually I didn’t need my inside rein to remind him anymore. We did that in both walk and trot, and she carefully timed my 2 minutes of trot each direction (she is currently doing the same drill with her horse and also wears an event watch to keep track!).
The next two videos are just bend, more, most on the circle at the trot. The one to the right has some general NQR steps, but the left looks a little better with a weird step every now and then.
We finished with some leg yields from the wall to some distance in, to back to the wall. They started out as straight, fly sideways, fly the other way, straight. She had me keep careful control over the shoulders and force him to take straight ahead steps before SLOWLY going back to the wall. If we didn’t make it back to the wall, so be it. The shoulder control was the important part. They were allowed to be a bit sloppy (not straight nose to tail) because this is building on the bend, more most idea and just keeping control of the shoulder.
The second two are leg yield exercises in the walk and trot from the wall to the quarterline. Sorry they aren't more edited down, I just didn't have time to pick them apart and do the edits!
It was a really great lesson and was very productive. I fear it’s the last lesson I’ll ever have on him. :( I’m sure most of you know where that’s going. But that’s another post that's coming.
We went to GP Trainer's massive local feed store- it's more like a mega feed store that's also a tack shop to rival Dover in available products plus sells expensive hunt club home decor. Mom and I paroozed the entire place, but of course I didn't take pictures! What the heck, I'm not good at this.
They were having a sale on Charles Owen helmets, and I've never tried one on, so I grabbed a very sparkly one (gray/black sparkles I think), and I loved it. It fit great and looked great. Then I looked at the price tag. Over $400! I can't even figure out which one it was by looking online. But I do know that they fit my head well, and also have the right profile for my head. Good to know for when I need to replace my OneK!
We ended up not finding his exact grain (Purina Impact Performance) in the product list, and the staff was wonderful in helping me find something similar based on an online label. I was afraid to buy him a brand new feed for only 4 feedings, so I got him a bag of alfalfa pellets thinking he’d like them. Uhhh, you can guess how that worked out!
So thank all the lucky stars that we opted to do an MRI, and GP Trainer was willing to keep Penn and my trailer… As mom and I were headed home on Saturday, the truck gave a “CHECK BRAKE SYSTEM” error message.
You might be thinking, “But wait? Didn’t you already lose your brakes in this truck and have them replaced on the fly in Ohio when Mikey was having hock surgery to try and save his soundness?”
Ok, so you might not be thinking that exactly. BUT WHY THE F DOES MY TRUCK FEEL THE NEED TO LOSE ITS BRAKES EVERY TIME THERE’S SOMETHING MAJOR WRONG WITH THE HORSE?!
Ahem.
We got ourselves stopped right away on the side of the PA Turnpike. I tried the Torque phone app with the computer/Bluetooth plug in with no results, though I can’t say I tried very hard when I was panicking on the side of the highway. I called Husband to let him know there was a problem, and we would need rescuing at some point. Luckily (if there is something lucky about this besides we didn’t have the trailer and horse with us), we had stopped right in front of a sign that said “Rest Stop 2 Miles”. Wonderful. I figured I had enough brakes left to go 45 mph with my flashers on and limp to the rest stop where I felt safe popping the hood and looking at my brake fluid.
Did you know when you go 45 mph in a 70 zone with your flashers on, people and 18 wheelers avoid you like the plague? It’s my new favorite way of traveling!
Anywho, I used 3rd, 2nd and low gears to get myself slowed down on the exit ramp, and used the brakes to fully stop in an empty part of the parking lot. Sure enough, I had no brake fluid going to the rear brakes anymore, we only had some going to the front.
Did you know you have to call *11 for the Emergency Services on the Turnpike, who will then tow you to the next exit, unload you, then you can call AAA to save the day? I didn't. I do now!
Luckily, the rest stop was 2 miles from the next exit, there was a good parking lot nearby to drop us off, and the tow was free because it was under 3 miles. The driver was also there in record time- 30 min! Mom and I barely had time to use the bathroom, get something for dinner, and make our calls before he showed up.
The driver tried to get his dispatcher to let him take us all the way to our proper exit (since AAA was going to call them anyway to tow me there), but the company was short staffed and couldn’t send him 60 miles out of his service area. He would have charged us his company’s rate for towing, instead of the $4 a mile that AAA would charge.
Husband met mom and me at the Turnpike exit and reviewed the brake lines while we waited for the AAA tow to arrive. The lines that were replaced in Feb 2015 were still solid, albeit rusty (they shouldn’t be since the lines were supposed to be stainless…). The problem was, the shop that did my original line replacement only replaced the main lines that had been previously spliced. They did not replace the lines that go to each wheel. Husband found that out a few months ago and was going to replace them himself in the spring with some new tools he got for his tractor project… whups, not doing that! The passenger rear line developed a hole and was streaming brake fluid all over the parking lot.
The AAA tow truck showed up fairly quickly, and we followed it to the shop where we decided to drop the truck off at… without telling the shop of course! They’re only open M-F, and there’s no emergency number. Husband left them an envelope with a laundry list of things: Brakes (doh), wheel bearing check (we think the passenger front is bad), speedometer (Who needs this to work properly? I don’t. I always end up pulling the trailer at whatever speed feels comfortable… which is usually 5-15mph below the posted limit), and then do an inspection because that’s due in December.
Oh, that’s not the end of course! Stay tuned for more…
In his own dry lot. |
We had a lovely ride with GP Trainer’s second assistant trainer (GP Trainer was off teaching a clinic). Penn felt great! He did take some NQR steps tracking right at the trot, but settled right into sound trot steps to the left.
The assistant trainer addressed some of the issues we’d been having: I didn’t want to touch the inside rein because that’s “not correct” but I’d lost the lateral flexion at the poll and Penn just wanted to put his nose to the outside, despite all of my inside leg being on and his neck being shifted in:
Using both the inside rein and inside leg, she had me think about flexion and bend as two different things (because they are) and overdo the lateral flexion and bend in a “bend, more, most” 3 step process. At that point I’d also use a bit more inside leg in a ‘lift the belly’ type motion to encourage him to bring his back up. I'd hold the "most" for a few steps, then release the inside rein. Repeat as often as needed. Doing this will cause him to fall out the outside shoulder, but that doesn't matter too much. He wanted to fall out more tracking right, so I kept enough outside aids on to keep him on the circle. Even though we're using an awful lot of inside rein, I still can't just pull or hang on it- she had me rolling my inside hand and being super sloppy with it to encourage him to bring his nose in.
As he became more flexible with that and started losing the outside shoulder on the circle, she had me keep him straighter by blocking the outside shoulder. It was really nice, he suppled and eventually I didn’t need my inside rein to remind him anymore. We did that in both walk and trot, and she carefully timed my 2 minutes of trot each direction (she is currently doing the same drill with her horse and also wears an event watch to keep track!).
The next two videos are just bend, more, most on the circle at the trot. The one to the right has some general NQR steps, but the left looks a little better with a weird step every now and then.
We finished with some leg yields from the wall to some distance in, to back to the wall. They started out as straight, fly sideways, fly the other way, straight. She had me keep careful control over the shoulders and force him to take straight ahead steps before SLOWLY going back to the wall. If we didn’t make it back to the wall, so be it. The shoulder control was the important part. They were allowed to be a bit sloppy (not straight nose to tail) because this is building on the bend, more most idea and just keeping control of the shoulder.
The second two are leg yield exercises in the walk and trot from the wall to the quarterline. Sorry they aren't more edited down, I just didn't have time to pick them apart and do the edits!
It was a really great lesson and was very productive. I fear it’s the last lesson I’ll ever have on him. :( I’m sure most of you know where that’s going. But that’s another post that's coming.
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We went to GP Trainer's massive local feed store- it's more like a mega feed store that's also a tack shop to rival Dover in available products plus sells expensive hunt club home decor. Mom and I paroozed the entire place, but of course I didn't take pictures! What the heck, I'm not good at this.
They were having a sale on Charles Owen helmets, and I've never tried one on, so I grabbed a very sparkly one (gray/black sparkles I think), and I loved it. It fit great and looked great. Then I looked at the price tag. Over $400! I can't even figure out which one it was by looking online. But I do know that they fit my head well, and also have the right profile for my head. Good to know for when I need to replace my OneK!
We ended up not finding his exact grain (Purina Impact Performance) in the product list, and the staff was wonderful in helping me find something similar based on an online label. I was afraid to buy him a brand new feed for only 4 feedings, so I got him a bag of alfalfa pellets thinking he’d like them. Uhhh, you can guess how that worked out!
Safely tucked into GP Trainer's! |
So thank all the lucky stars that we opted to do an MRI, and GP Trainer was willing to keep Penn and my trailer… As mom and I were headed home on Saturday, the truck gave a “CHECK BRAKE SYSTEM” error message.
You might be thinking, “But wait? Didn’t you already lose your brakes in this truck and have them replaced on the fly in Ohio when Mikey was having hock surgery to try and save his soundness?”
Ok, so you might not be thinking that exactly. BUT WHY THE F DOES MY TRUCK FEEL THE NEED TO LOSE ITS BRAKES EVERY TIME THERE’S SOMETHING MAJOR WRONG WITH THE HORSE?!
Ahem.
We got ourselves stopped right away on the side of the PA Turnpike. I tried the Torque phone app with the computer/Bluetooth plug in with no results, though I can’t say I tried very hard when I was panicking on the side of the highway. I called Husband to let him know there was a problem, and we would need rescuing at some point. Luckily (if there is something lucky about this besides we didn’t have the trailer and horse with us), we had stopped right in front of a sign that said “Rest Stop 2 Miles”. Wonderful. I figured I had enough brakes left to go 45 mph with my flashers on and limp to the rest stop where I felt safe popping the hood and looking at my brake fluid.
Did you know when you go 45 mph in a 70 zone with your flashers on, people and 18 wheelers avoid you like the plague? It’s my new favorite way of traveling!
Anywho, I used 3rd, 2nd and low gears to get myself slowed down on the exit ramp, and used the brakes to fully stop in an empty part of the parking lot. Sure enough, I had no brake fluid going to the rear brakes anymore, we only had some going to the front.
Front bucket is for the rear brakes. No fluid! |
Rear bucket is for the front brakes. Found what's left of my fluid! |
Did you know you have to call *11 for the Emergency Services on the Turnpike, who will then tow you to the next exit, unload you, then you can call AAA to save the day? I didn't. I do now!
Luckily, the rest stop was 2 miles from the next exit, there was a good parking lot nearby to drop us off, and the tow was free because it was under 3 miles. The driver was also there in record time- 30 min! Mom and I barely had time to use the bathroom, get something for dinner, and make our calls before he showed up.
The driver tried to get his dispatcher to let him take us all the way to our proper exit (since AAA was going to call them anyway to tow me there), but the company was short staffed and couldn’t send him 60 miles out of his service area. He would have charged us his company’s rate for towing, instead of the $4 a mile that AAA would charge.
Getting picked up at the Turnpike rest stop. |
Husband met mom and me at the Turnpike exit and reviewed the brake lines while we waited for the AAA tow to arrive. The lines that were replaced in Feb 2015 were still solid, albeit rusty (they shouldn’t be since the lines were supposed to be stainless…). The problem was, the shop that did my original line replacement only replaced the main lines that had been previously spliced. They did not replace the lines that go to each wheel. Husband found that out a few months ago and was going to replace them himself in the spring with some new tools he got for his tractor project… whups, not doing that! The passenger rear line developed a hole and was streaming brake fluid all over the parking lot.
The AAA tow truck showed up fairly quickly, and we followed it to the shop where we decided to drop the truck off at… without telling the shop of course! They’re only open M-F, and there’s no emergency number. Husband left them an envelope with a laundry list of things: Brakes (doh), wheel bearing check (we think the passenger front is bad), speedometer (Who needs this to work properly? I don’t. I always end up pulling the trailer at whatever speed feels comfortable… which is usually 5-15mph below the posted limit), and then do an inspection because that’s due in December.
Oh, that’s not the end of course! Stay tuned for more…
Tuesday, December 4, 2018
11/16/2018 - Diagnosing Penn, Part 1
Winter decided to rear its ugly head right before we were supposed to travel down to VA for Penn’s recheck. We only got a little ice and snow, but the vet office got a good deal more. They called to say they might have to push appointments back a bit because of a delayed start, which I said was fine because I had already pushed my own appointment back an hour to 2 pm because I was concerned I wouldn’t be able to get out of the barn’s valley.
However, all things lucked out! The snow plow came through as I was hooking up the trailer and salted the steepest part of the road, Penn loaded right up, and off we went! We had a nice drive down to VA, and arrived early despite leaving 45 min later than I originally planned. I ended up hanging around for a bit waiting for the vet to be done with her prior appointment (that's where most of the stall pictures happened- I don't have other media from Friday)
The vet ran her hands all over Penn first to check pain points and body condition, and found an unreasonable amount of hind end pain. We did the usual tests first- walking on a straight line, trotting on a straight line, trotting both directions on a circle on a hard surface.
He was pretty much the same as last time- 1/5 bilaterally lame on the hard surface on the inside front when trotting. We went over how hit or miss he’s been feeling at trot under saddle. She decided to put the surcingle with 60lbs of deadweight back on since I said it’s worse under saddle and he had quite a bit of hind end pain.
This is where things turned a bit: he became sound with added weight. He wasn’t happy at all, he tossed his head frequently but remained sound. She jokingly called it “the dressage horse response”, aka lift your back and use yourself. She did call it positive for back pain since he was tossing his head.
We went back to the barn and did straight line trots after flexions. The flexions were better than last time: the RF was unremarkable (for the first time ever) and the LF was mild. The hinds saw an increase in pain though- the lower and upper flexions were mild + on the left hind, and moderate on the right.
That left us at an interesting place: his hind end pain concerned the vet especially since I said we’ve battled hind end pain for as long as I’ve owned him, but the front end hadn’t gotten better. She gave me a choice about where best to spend my money: we can redo the nerve blocks on the front end, or we can do a CURO test on the hind end suspensory tendons. She was concerned about the health of the suspensory tendons, citing there is a disease that attacks them and causes irreparable damage, but we often don’t know about it until too late. She said it also could be that he’d benefit greatly from hock injections. Doing the CURO test would make her sleep better about just doing hock injections.
I hemmed and hawed over it, but settled on the front end issues. Those are the one preventing him from being a ‘useful’ horse- he can’t show or go to lessons as he is now. I never know if I’m going to have a sound horse or a lame horse until we’re trotting. As they were scrubbing him up to do nerve blocks in the front heels, I asked how much the CURO test was to do. She said $150. I was like, “Oh, that’s nothing. Let’s do that too if the nerve blocks won’t affect the results.” She was very pleased and we got the CURO test set up after the blocks had been injected.
So CURO is kind of interesting- it’s sensors placed on the hind end suspensory below the hock, which are hooked up to a pack on a surcingle. The horse walks back and forth, then trots back and forth, then walks again. Normal output is 5 or above. I could barely find anything out about it online, but here’s a link to their website.
His results were as follows:
LH:
Overall – 5
First walk: 4.8
Final walk: 5.3
RH:
Overall – 6
First walk: 6.5
Final walk: 5.7
Both seemed within normal tolerances, but to me, the left seems worse off… which actually tallies with how he’s felt under saddle. He wants to pitch his hind end left and not use his left hind. The right hind is the more sore hind, so he might be compensating for the left hind. Both results were within normal tolerance, so she thought we would be safe to do the hock injections at some point.
The first nerve block didn’t produce a change, which was both good and bad. His heels don’t appear to be hurting anymore, which means the shoeing changes we’ve made are working for him. The bad news is that something else hurts.
The next set of nerve blocks blocked the entire foot, and he became much sounder. Well fuck it all. She said that basically puts us firmly in MRI land to further diagnose the problem. We could do that, or continue as we were and see if he gets better or worse. I had prepared to do an MRI on this visit, so we opted for the MRI.
I didn’t realize that VEI doesn’t have an MRI, they use the one at Virginia Tech’s Morven Park medical facility. It has to be booked ahead of time, so we booked it for the first day we could- the next Tuesday morning at 7:30a. Unfortunately that left us in a bit of a lurch for what to do with Penn. I had planned on going over to GP Trainer’s barn that evening and having a simple walk trot rehab lesson with one of her assistants Saturday morning. The vet approved having a lesson- GP Trainer’s footing is practically perfect and extremely safe so she had no issue with walking and doing some limited trot on it.
The problem is the amount of traveling Penn would have to do in the following days: The original plan was to bring him down for his vet visit Friday morning, take him to spend the night at GP Trainer’s, have a lesson Saturday morning, load him up and go home. Well, if we adhered to that schedule, we’d have to pack him back up in the trailer Monday, bring him to either GP Trainer’s or VEI to spend Monday night, then load him up at the buttcrack of dawn to take to Morven on Tuesday, then bring him home again on Tuesday (we would come back for any treatment based on the MRI results since they wouldn’t be available until Tuesday evening anyway). He’d spend 6 hours in a trailer for 4 of 5 days in a row.
Luckily, GP Trainer quickly agreed to just house Penn and my trailer until Tuesday. That left me scrambling for feed and blankets for Penn- this was the one visit where I hadn’t brought a bunch of extra feed, nor had I brought any of his turnout blankets! She said they could find something for him to wear if he needed it (he had a BOT mesh sheet and mid weight stable blanket), so that just left the feed problem to be dealt with on Saturday.
To be continued!
Not much snow, but it has ice under it. |
However, all things lucked out! The snow plow came through as I was hooking up the trailer and salted the steepest part of the road, Penn loaded right up, and off we went! We had a nice drive down to VA, and arrived early despite leaving 45 min later than I originally planned. I ended up hanging around for a bit waiting for the vet to be done with her prior appointment (that's where most of the stall pictures happened- I don't have other media from Friday)
Enter: One feed tub of alfalox. |
The vet ran her hands all over Penn first to check pain points and body condition, and found an unreasonable amount of hind end pain. We did the usual tests first- walking on a straight line, trotting on a straight line, trotting both directions on a circle on a hard surface.
He was pretty much the same as last time- 1/5 bilaterally lame on the hard surface on the inside front when trotting. We went over how hit or miss he’s been feeling at trot under saddle. She decided to put the surcingle with 60lbs of deadweight back on since I said it’s worse under saddle and he had quite a bit of hind end pain.
This is where things turned a bit: he became sound with added weight. He wasn’t happy at all, he tossed his head frequently but remained sound. She jokingly called it “the dressage horse response”, aka lift your back and use yourself. She did call it positive for back pain since he was tossing his head.
Penn had enough of gray horse's anger issues and decided to attack, but was not prepared for the gray horse to "fight back".
We went back to the barn and did straight line trots after flexions. The flexions were better than last time: the RF was unremarkable (for the first time ever) and the LF was mild. The hinds saw an increase in pain though- the lower and upper flexions were mild + on the left hind, and moderate on the right.
That left us at an interesting place: his hind end pain concerned the vet especially since I said we’ve battled hind end pain for as long as I’ve owned him, but the front end hadn’t gotten better. She gave me a choice about where best to spend my money: we can redo the nerve blocks on the front end, or we can do a CURO test on the hind end suspensory tendons. She was concerned about the health of the suspensory tendons, citing there is a disease that attacks them and causes irreparable damage, but we often don’t know about it until too late. She said it also could be that he’d benefit greatly from hock injections. Doing the CURO test would make her sleep better about just doing hock injections.
I hemmed and hawed over it, but settled on the front end issues. Those are the one preventing him from being a ‘useful’ horse- he can’t show or go to lessons as he is now. I never know if I’m going to have a sound horse or a lame horse until we’re trotting. As they were scrubbing him up to do nerve blocks in the front heels, I asked how much the CURO test was to do. She said $150. I was like, “Oh, that’s nothing. Let’s do that too if the nerve blocks won’t affect the results.” She was very pleased and we got the CURO test set up after the blocks had been injected.
Penn, I think this is why other horses beat you up so easily. You don't take a hint!
So CURO is kind of interesting- it’s sensors placed on the hind end suspensory below the hock, which are hooked up to a pack on a surcingle. The horse walks back and forth, then trots back and forth, then walks again. Normal output is 5 or above. I could barely find anything out about it online, but here’s a link to their website.
His results were as follows:
LH:
Overall – 5
First walk: 4.8
Final walk: 5.3
RH:
Overall – 6
First walk: 6.5
Final walk: 5.7
Both seemed within normal tolerances, but to me, the left seems worse off… which actually tallies with how he’s felt under saddle. He wants to pitch his hind end left and not use his left hind. The right hind is the more sore hind, so he might be compensating for the left hind. Both results were within normal tolerance, so she thought we would be safe to do the hock injections at some point.
"MAHM HALP" |
The first nerve block didn’t produce a change, which was both good and bad. His heels don’t appear to be hurting anymore, which means the shoeing changes we’ve made are working for him. The bad news is that something else hurts.
The next set of nerve blocks blocked the entire foot, and he became much sounder. Well fuck it all. She said that basically puts us firmly in MRI land to further diagnose the problem. We could do that, or continue as we were and see if he gets better or worse. I had prepared to do an MRI on this visit, so we opted for the MRI.
I didn’t realize that VEI doesn’t have an MRI, they use the one at Virginia Tech’s Morven Park medical facility. It has to be booked ahead of time, so we booked it for the first day we could- the next Tuesday morning at 7:30a. Unfortunately that left us in a bit of a lurch for what to do with Penn. I had planned on going over to GP Trainer’s barn that evening and having a simple walk trot rehab lesson with one of her assistants Saturday morning. The vet approved having a lesson- GP Trainer’s footing is practically perfect and extremely safe so she had no issue with walking and doing some limited trot on it.
The problem is the amount of traveling Penn would have to do in the following days: The original plan was to bring him down for his vet visit Friday morning, take him to spend the night at GP Trainer’s, have a lesson Saturday morning, load him up and go home. Well, if we adhered to that schedule, we’d have to pack him back up in the trailer Monday, bring him to either GP Trainer’s or VEI to spend Monday night, then load him up at the buttcrack of dawn to take to Morven on Tuesday, then bring him home again on Tuesday (we would come back for any treatment based on the MRI results since they wouldn’t be available until Tuesday evening anyway). He’d spend 6 hours in a trailer for 4 of 5 days in a row.
Friends?
Luckily, GP Trainer quickly agreed to just house Penn and my trailer until Tuesday. That left me scrambling for feed and blankets for Penn- this was the one visit where I hadn’t brought a bunch of extra feed, nor had I brought any of his turnout blankets! She said they could find something for him to wear if he needed it (he had a BOT mesh sheet and mid weight stable blanket), so that just left the feed problem to be dealt with on Saturday.
To be continued!
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